Comments on: Regulations For ATV’s, UTV”s, Motorcycles Clarified in Idaho http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/ Your Multi Species Fishing, Hunting, & Outdoors Recreation News & Information Center. Looking for bass fishing reports, river reports, hunting reports, or other outdoors recreation? Outdoor Central News Network is your fishing & hunting news answer. We've been your source for news and information, covering fishing, hunting, outdoor recreation, and state parks since 1997. Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:28:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Matthew Cornett http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-418 Matthew Cornett Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:27:32 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-418 I have an ATV legal and they took away my motorbike license plate. I was pulled over last night because i was on a state highway. even though i know it is being in a small town why does the state not have any signs for 4 miles stating that it is a state hwy? I have an ATV legal and they took away my motorbike license plate. I was pulled over last night because i was on a state highway. even though i know it is being in a small town why does the state not have any signs for 4 miles stating that it is a state hwy?

]]> By: Jessica http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-403 Jessica Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:30:02 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-403 So, my husband and I too our five children ages from 8 to 16 (none of which have a drivers license) in to the South Hills for camping and riding. We camped at the FS Flats where there is a big open space so the kids could ride while we were at camp. We had a visit from one of the Forest Service Officers telling us that the kids were not allowed to ride in the field or on the road, only on the trails. I asked him how do we get the kid's 4 wheelers and bikes to the trails if they are not allowed on the road? He did not have an answer for me...can anyone tell me where we can ride as a family? We have followed all the rules and done everything from licensing, stickers, insurance...etc. We really feel like the gov. is trying to take away yet another thing that family's can enjoy!!!! So, my husband and I too our five children ages from 8 to 16 (none of which have a drivers license) in to the South Hills for camping and riding. We camped at the FS Flats where there is a big open space so the kids could ride while we were at camp.

We had a visit from one of the Forest Service Officers telling us that the kids were not allowed to ride in the field or on the road, only on the trails. I asked him how do we get the kid’s 4 wheelers and bikes to the trails if they are not allowed on the road? He did not have an answer for me…can anyone tell me where we can ride as a family?

We have followed all the rules and done everything from licensing, stickers, insurance…etc. We really feel like the gov. is trying to take away yet another thing that family’s can enjoy!!!!

]]> By: Brian http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-362 Brian Sun, 03 May 2009 04:24:29 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-362 So I purchased a bike last week for my daughter. I took the new title and my hard earned cash to the MV county assessor folks at the courthouse to pay for the cool license plate, sticker, and best of all sales tax on a bike that to my knowledge had been sold and taxed twice before I got it. Anyways, two months ago I had to purchase plates and a sticker for both of my other dirt bikes to renew them; no option was given not to, it was required. This time (4/30/09) I was informed the rules had recently changed an only a sticker is required UNLESS you went on certain maintained roads. The employees had a photocopied document that someone slapped together and had to pass it around to each other to attempt to answer my question - Do I need a plate or not??? I ended up not getting a plate, because according to their new rules document one is not required if you are out riding in the desert somewhere. The facts: The closest official document I can find explaining this update thus far is located at http://parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/assets/content/docs/motorbikeregs.pdf - which does indicate you don't need a plate for off road use, only a sticker. It doesn't seem to have a date on it, or even a form number, and it looks like just a pamphlet. What is more interesting is that the statutes for recreational activities (http://www3.state.id.us/idstat/TOC/67071KTOC.html) still indicates that a sticker must be affixed to a plate (http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=670710022.K) for off road bikes/ATVs that are "used off public highways." The wording is a bit tricky, which I'm sure is what contributed to many of the uncertainties. In my eyes I'm seeing the statute saying "plate required" and Parks & Rec along with the DMV saying "plate not required if not on an unmanaged highway or completely off road". I'm no attorney, and I've certainly spent more time researching this than I ever wanted to. I paid my fees, got two plates (which I refuse to mount and endanger anyone with), got 3 stickers, and I have done more than my due diligence to decipher this absurd set of rules. I give. Time to go ride :) So I purchased a bike last week for my daughter. I took the new title and my hard earned cash to the MV county assessor folks at the courthouse to pay for the cool license plate, sticker, and best of all sales tax on a bike that to my knowledge had been sold and taxed twice before I got it. Anyways, two months ago I had to purchase plates and a sticker for both of my other dirt bikes to renew them; no option was given not to, it was required. This time (4/30/09) I was informed the rules had recently changed an only a sticker is required UNLESS you went on certain maintained roads. The employees had a photocopied document that someone slapped together and had to pass it around to each other to attempt to answer my question – Do I need a plate or not??? I ended up not getting a plate, because according to their new rules document one is not required if you are out riding in the desert somewhere.

The facts:
The closest official document I can find explaining this update thus far is located at http://parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/assets/content/docs/motorbikeregs.pdf – which does indicate you don’t need a plate for off road use, only a sticker. It doesn’t seem to have a date on it, or even a form number, and it looks like just a pamphlet. What is more interesting is that the statutes for recreational activities (http://www3.state.id.us/idstat/TOC/67071KTOC.html) still indicates that a sticker must be affixed to a plate (http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=670710022.K) for off road bikes/ATVs that are “used off public highways.” The wording is a bit tricky, which I’m sure is what contributed to many of the uncertainties. In my eyes I’m seeing the statute saying “plate required” and Parks & Rec along with the DMV saying “plate not required if not on an unmanaged highway or completely off road”.

I’m no attorney, and I’ve certainly spent more time researching this than I ever wanted to. I paid my fees, got two plates (which I refuse to mount and endanger anyone with), got 3 stickers, and I have done more than my due diligence to decipher this absurd set of rules. I give. Time to go ride :)

]]> By: Annie Farrens http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-347 Annie Farrens Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:01:30 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-347 Okay, so after reading all the regs, can anyone tell me where I am supposed to put a license plate on a cr250??? The sticker I can live with, but a license plate on a dirtbike?!? Come on!!!! The lawmakers are more than bordering on the REDICULOUS here!!!! Okay, so after reading all the regs, can anyone tell me where I am supposed to put a license plate on a cr250??? The sticker I can live with, but a license plate on a dirtbike?!? Come on!!!! The lawmakers are more than bordering on the REDICULOUS here!!!!

]]> By: Coleman Moore http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-335 Coleman Moore Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:33:37 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-335 So Boise can basically have a UTV on city streets. Does anyone know about Bonneville county/Idaho Falls areas for on-road use ofan UTV . So Boise can basically have a UTV on city streets. Does anyone know about Bonneville county/Idaho Falls areas for on-road use ofan UTV .

]]> By: Mark Mason http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-324 Mark Mason Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:18:36 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-324 This is just another attemp for government to contol one more thing. No one who wrote this rule, has a clue about, bikes or ATVs. I would not have cared if they doubled the price of the off road sticker, the Parks and Recreation guys do a very good job of maintaining the trails and signs ( thank you). To require a sharp metal license plate and bracket to be on the rear fender of a dirt bike is the work of IDIOTS! There are racing rules that specificly require that sharp and pointy stuff be left off you bike so you dont hurt your self or others in a crash. The Three dollar fee ( for the plate) is just the camels nose in the tent. We all know as soon as we get the list of names, that fee will go way up, probably right up there with car registrations. The minute some goverment organization runs low on cash, they WILL TAX US WITH OUT REPRESENTATION again. That is one thing I feel I can count on in the future. I have seen ONE lawman on the trails in the last two years, and they ( good Men) were doing a rescue. My Family does all the right things ( Obey signs, pick up other peoples trash, run with spark arrestors/mufflers, run slow around hikers, fisherman, and horses, treading lightly, NOT TEARING UP THE ENVIRONMENT) for all the right reasons,not because some one makes us do it. I hope you catch some of these trouble makers, but I can tell you the plates will not help. It is Just SIMPLY ONE MORE TAXATION. I still cant believe this got rammed down our throats with no comment from the intelligent riding public. Be responsible out there Mark Mason This is just another attemp for government to contol one more thing. No one who wrote this rule, has a clue about, bikes or ATVs. I would not have cared if they doubled the price of the off road sticker, the Parks and Recreation guys do a very good job of maintaining the trails and signs ( thank you).
To require a sharp metal license plate and bracket to be on the rear fender of a dirt bike is the work of IDIOTS! There are racing rules that specificly require that sharp and pointy stuff be left off you bike so you dont hurt your self or others in a crash. The Three dollar fee ( for the plate) is just the camels nose in the tent. We all know as soon as we get the list of names, that fee will go way up, probably right up there with car registrations. The minute some goverment organization runs low on cash, they WILL TAX US WITH OUT REPRESENTATION again. That is one thing I feel I can count on in the future.
I have seen ONE lawman on the trails in the last two years, and they ( good Men) were doing a rescue.
My Family does all the right things ( Obey signs, pick up other peoples trash, run with spark arrestors/mufflers, run slow around hikers, fisherman, and horses, treading lightly, NOT TEARING UP THE ENVIRONMENT) for all the right reasons,not because some one makes us do it.

I hope you catch some of these trouble makers, but I can tell you the plates will not help. It is Just SIMPLY ONE MORE TAXATION.

I still cant believe this got rammed down our throats with no comment from the intelligent riding public.

Be responsible out there
Mark Mason

]]> By: Danny Boy McCoy http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-312 Danny Boy McCoy Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:14:20 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-312 Just wanted to give you all an update on UTV use on Boise public roads. I received an email from the Boise City Council that in a vote taken in a recent Council meeting banning ATV's from public roadways it did not include UTV's. UTV's equipped with high pressure tires (20lbs), horn, tail/brake lights, properly registered and insured are legal on public roads, but are restricted on highways, ie: I-84 etc. It was suggested by a Sergeant on the Boise Police Dept for me to contact the City Prosecutor's office for verification. I also received an email from the Asst. Boise City Prosecutor that UTV's with the above equipment and insurance is indeed Street Legal with the restriction on highways. Hope to see you on the road! Just wanted to give you all an update on UTV use on Boise public roads. I received an email from the Boise City Council that in a vote taken in a recent Council meeting banning ATV’s from public roadways it did not include UTV’s. UTV’s equipped with high pressure tires (20lbs), horn, tail/brake lights, properly registered and insured are legal on public roads, but are restricted on highways, ie: I-84 etc. It was suggested by a Sergeant on the Boise Police Dept for me to contact the City Prosecutor’s office for verification. I also received an email from the Asst. Boise City Prosecutor that UTV’s with the above equipment and insurance is indeed Street Legal with the restriction on highways.

Hope to see you on the road!

]]> By: Max Cole http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-277 Max Cole Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:49:49 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-277 I just bought the new plates for my atv and dirtbike. I was a little irritated that I didn't recieve a credit for the two year atv sticker I purchased last year. Also, where do I attach the plate for my cr250 dirtbike? There is literaly no where to put it. I explained to the lady at the DMV that the motorcycle is strictly for off roaduse and that I didn't need a license plate for it, but she assured me that I did. Seems funny to me. I just bought the new plates for my atv and dirtbike. I was a little irritated that I didn’t recieve a credit for the two year atv sticker I purchased last year. Also, where do I attach the plate for my cr250 dirtbike? There is literaly no where to put it. I explained to the lady at the DMV that the motorcycle is strictly for off roaduse and that I didn’t need a license plate for it, but she assured me that I did. Seems funny to me.

]]> By: jim l. johnson http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-174 jim l. johnson Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:12:54 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-174 If I'm not allowed to take my atv on a state highway, do I get 25 cents (road tax per gallon Idaho transportation department gets that goes to highway repairs) off? All the state highways are rated at different levels. Level 1 having the most volume of traffic which you would'nt want to be on, but the lower levels like 3,4,and 5 and with speed limits of 45 and down,let us get to our trails. If I’m not allowed to take my atv on a state highway, do I get 25 cents (road tax per gallon Idaho transportation department gets that goes to highway repairs) off? All the state highways are rated at different levels. Level 1 having the most volume of traffic which you would’nt want to be on, but the lower levels like 3,4,and 5 and with speed limits of 45 and down,let us get to our trails.

]]> By: Danny McCoy http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-124 Danny McCoy Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:03:09 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-124 Well I went to DMV and the young gentleman said he has not had the training class on the new UTV rules yet. He stated that he did not know if I could operate my Rhino on the city streets. Who does know for sure? I give up! Well I went to DMV and the young gentleman said he has not had the training class on the new UTV rules yet. He stated that he did not know if I could operate my Rhino on the city streets. Who does know for sure? I give up!

]]> By: Danny McCoy http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Danny McCoy Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:57:40 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-98 After I read the information above I am still confused. It seems to say after 1/1/09 if I have my Rhino tagged properly, and setup with a mirror and horn, I CAN operate it on city streets in Boise. Just not the freeway. I spoke with the Yamaha dealer here and he said NO I cannot. Which is it? Does anyone know for sure? I guess I will have to go to DMV to find out. After I read the information above I am still confused. It seems to say after 1/1/09 if I have my Rhino tagged properly, and setup with a mirror and horn, I CAN operate it on city streets in Boise. Just not the freeway. I spoke with the Yamaha dealer here and he said NO I cannot. Which is it? Does anyone know for sure? I guess I will have to go to DMV to find out.

]]> By: Paul Streibel http://www.outdoorcentral.com/2008/08/19/regulations-for-atvs-utvs-motorcycles-clarified-in-idaho/comment-page-1/#comment-73 Paul Streibel Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:38:44 +0000 http://www.outdoorcentral.com/?p=3176#comment-73 The 48" and 50" rule needs to be ashcanned as handicapped persons cannot ride ATVs, so we are discriminating against persons with disabilities by not letting them ride the same trails as 2 wheel or ATVs, but they can ride in a utv!!! Also all agencies must get together and publish the same rules and not require the rider to visit each agency, to get a damn map, which a lot of the time is not accurate anyway!! The 48″ and 50″ rule needs to be ashcanned as handicapped persons cannot ride ATVs, so we are discriminating against persons with disabilities by not letting them ride the same trails as 2 wheel or ATVs, but they can ride in a utv!!! Also all agencies must get together and publish the same rules and not require the rider to visit each agency, to get a damn map, which a lot of the time is not accurate anyway!!

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